Añadido: May 14, 2008
De: Loreleila
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Categoría: Education
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cardellacole1 Says:
May 14, 2008 - to be more defined imagin a person finds spirituality and feels insane at first and strives to understand his enlightenment , well nick is the oposit he was a spiritual person who found an atheistic logic which made him feel insane at first and his enlightenment is to follow and understand it that is the simple version and to tell you the truth i find it very interesting and quite revealing
cardellacole1 Says:
May 14, 2008 - what cannot be denied is he is a modern mystic?
Loreleila Says:
May 14, 2008 - I have found it quite strange in general here that when I'm exploring topics, often without any explicit spiritual content at all, but from a psychological perspective, or similar, certain atheists get very suspicious, as if I'm trying to lead them to god. I find it a bit limiting sometimes.
Loreleila Says:
May 14, 2008 - I see no mysticism at all.
cardellacole1 Says:
May 14, 2008 - thats true
cardellacole1 Says:
May 14, 2008 - yes they wont enter to find the imaginative there afraid of hypnotism and delusion its as if they threw out the baby with the bath water but most of all they abhor superstition and protect themselves from it the choice of words is very important and the weight given to them but in truth its a form of predudice that is felt that you may not be aware of
Loreleila Says:
May 14, 2008 - I'm well aware of what you suggest here, certain limits, no go areas, places you get reactions or are ignored, sore spots. Not all of course, many are open and seek reality whatever it might transpire to be.
lapislazuline Says:
May 14, 2008 - what,s the difference between a religious person and an atheist? they both have a lot of opinions unencumbersd by fact
Loreleila Says:
May 14, 2008 - Oh please, don't get me started....:P You are wrong No, you are wrong You are evil/stupid/limited/bound for hell/ lacking/irrational/unloving/uncaring/ unscientific/the enemy etc etc *yawn* Many do not, I know a lot of people who stretch out beyond their limits and listen, grow, but the trap of having to choose this or that seems such a shame to me, so much beauty and insight is lost. Hell, you got me started. It's all your fault. Thank goodness for someone to blame.:)
lapislazuline Says:
May 14, 2008 - oopsie!....why can,t people just say the "theory" of religion and atheism it was good enough for Enstien and he was a genius. i would be interested to know if i spelt enstien correctly :^)
Loreleila Says:
May 14, 2008 - lol It's Einstein. One of my all time favourite people. "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all art and science." By himself :)
Loreleila Says:
May 14, 2008 - lol Well if it had an 'I' it certainly doesn't now. Unless you count yourself of course, which it is now tranforming into. :P
theoriginalanomaly Says:
May 14, 2008 - Reality is big... We perceive reality through limited perspectives. I believe it was Osho who used the example of the elephant in a dark room. There are several people feeling the elephant and explaining what it is. The person feeling the trunk, express' how strong, and long it is... Where as the guy in the back is perceiving its width. They are describing the same thing with different perspective... reality. We all come up with our own justification for life. Can't expect everyone to see yours.
Loreleila Says:
May 14, 2008 - That's a very ancient tale, there were six blind men all feeling different bits of an elephant. Before Osho's time. I don't expect anyone to see my perspective as the only one,it's far from that. If anything that is my entire theme, that if we can dare to hear one another we may understand the entire elephant a little better. No one part of the elephant is more elephant than any other.
VooDaicShaman Says:
May 23, 2008 - Question! Do you think it can travel down the same path?
Loreleila Says:
May 23, 2008 - It often does. The way I see it one of the most important factors is whether we give ourselves that choice. Of course we need to have an essence of who we are that we can simply be without any consideration at all, that woudl be the same path, but if we don't also explore other avenues we are half asleep, never truly looking at new possibilities. I'd rather stretch out and see who I can truly be, fill that potential. What do you think?
VooDaicShaman Says:
May 24, 2008 - I actually think around the same thing as you.
chriscrozzz Says:
May 26, 2008 - It might be helpful to ponder the idea that mind (mental "I" experience) is closer to a verb; and that brain (physical "I") is a noun. Mental process is a direct reflection of brain process--mainly because they are the SAME process. "Mind", as a concept, can't "do" anything because, like all verbs, it IS a "doing"....
w0r1dpeace Says:
May 26, 2008 - Brilliant effects.
TheModernMystic Says:
May 26, 2008 - Also by chriscrozz: from comments on my video Food for thought: the use of the term "mind" may be replaced with "minding". People have a certain conceptual place for "-ing" words that represent them as verbs... Also, the use of "I", "me", "my", etc. may be more consistent if reserved for material/physical uses only (physical body in space) and, in mental senses, replaced with phrases like, "my mental process", "my minding", etc.... One of the hard things about communicating these ideas.
Loreleila Says:
May 26, 2008 - Yes, that works. I is more an action or movmement than a static 'thing'. It does not exist as a physical object but that does not mean it does not exist. 'Running' does not exist, but one can still do it.
Loreleila Says:
May 26, 2008 - Thank you. :)
Loreleila Says:
May 26, 2008 - Thanks for putting it here Nick. I'm not as sure about this comment as the other one, which seems pretty clear conceptualising. This one I'd like clarification on.
chriscrozzz Says:
May 30, 2008 - Absolutely. Both 'running' and 'mind-ing' 'exist' or, maybe more accurately, 'happen'. There is a big category problem in discussing these terms and without adding an -ing to 'mind' I often want to revert back to referring to it as an object.
Loreleila Says:
May 14, 2008 - It seemed there was some attempt to shift his perspective, but he now appears to have reverted to where he began. Still, it was an interesting mental exercise.