Añadido: Jul 23, 2008
De: Shazoolo
Duración: 7:13
Bill McKeever of Mormonism Research Ministry discusses the problems in Mormon doctrine with regards to forgiveness, grace, works and assurance of salvation. Be sure to visit Mormons Research superb web site at: http://www.mrm.org
Categoría: People
Tags: christian church city evangelicals lake latter-day lds mormonism mormons religion saints salt temple
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omiolo Says:
Jul 24, 2008 - "No, you are just plain rude omiolo, and a poor advertisement for your religion. " this is coming from someone who LIES and DISTORTS my religion. Who called Jarko mentally unstable, me a 12 year, and demonizes anyone he can! yeah...I am the rude one!!!!
Shazoolo Says:
Jul 24, 2008 - Quoting the Bible is not the problem Christians have with you omiolo. It is your attitude. False accusations against anyone who differs from you (calling many"liars"), your ad hominem and calling people childish names (eg calling me spamoodo & spazoolo and the like). This is why you are threatened with being blocked and banned so don't flatter yourself bud. You are just plain rude and you need to repent. Ever thought why folk don't just block you outright? Because we care & want U 2 hear truth.
Shazoolo Says:
Jul 24, 2008 - Yes rude indeed. Lets have it anyway omiolo. Evidence of my so called "lies" Where is your proof eactly?
Shazoolo Says:
Jul 24, 2008 - omiolo, you keep on making these accusations against people who make videos critical of the Mormon religion as being liars (seen it a lot of other people as well as myself on other vids on YT). Seems a regular pattern with you. You are making these accusations publically so I am calling you out publically - show me where I have "lied" exactly.
Shazoolo Says:
Jul 24, 2008 - Jarrko mentally unstable? Where was this said? Documentation please. Shouldn't be hard to find that on the public boards. The 12 yr old comment is ASKING if that is how old UR (sheesh!)
omiolo Says:
Jul 24, 2008 - "Jarrko mentally unstable? Where was this said? " are you denying you said this or is this another one of your games to see if I can find the documentation? which one is it?
omiolo Says:
Jul 24, 2008 - "Quoting the Bible is not the problem Christians have with you omiolo." first of all, EVANGELICALS are NOT Christian. Secondly, you are LIARS when you say we worship satan, or we worship Joseph SMith. It is THAT SIMPLE!!
omiolo Says:
Jul 24, 2008 - "Lets have it anyway omiolo. Evidence of my so called "lies" Where is your proof eactly? " the last video in which we tangled. You said I offered NO evidence. I gave evidence directly from the religions website!! Yes, you are a LIAR!! anyone can see that!!
omiolo Says:
Jul 24, 2008 - " a poor advertisement for your religion. " coming from you and your cohorts that is actually a compliment!!
gordianvictoria Says:
Jul 24, 2008 - Shazoolo. If you go to other messages omiolo posts, he always does the same thing, he puts cap-locks on words like LIE and DISTORT. His reason? So the person coming to see the videos will see what omiolo writes, and maybe omiolo hopes he can sidetrack people by posting these same comments over and over, and maybe the person will no longer even watch the video, because it is supposedly filled with lies and distortions. Its a tactic he uses in all videos contradicting his beliefs in the church.
gordianvictoria Says:
Jul 24, 2008 - I wouldn't be surprised if omiolo is a church apologist. He sure acts like one. He tries to sidetrack conversations with personal attacks against you. I have already figured this guys tactics. He doesn't want to have a normal conversation. He just uses diversion tactics.
Shazoolo Says:
Jul 24, 2008 - Good point gordianvictoria. Do you know, I was thinking exactley the same thing myself just last night. Might be worth making a brief video on this tactic of omiolo's.
Shazoolo Says:
Jul 24, 2008 - I can't remember saying it. It is not something i would say. However, even IF I did say it, that would be my OPINION, not a lie. Even so, I would love to see your documentation on this. Back up your charges of "LIES" omiolo.
Shazoolo Says:
Jul 24, 2008 - Documentation please. Last video? If you are talking about the cofc issue, I have addressed this. If not this, what are you talking about exactly. Documentation.
Shazoolo Says:
Jul 24, 2008 - "Evangelicals are not Christians" Well, most other Mormons would disagree with you on that one omiolo. So we are liars eh? Hmmm. Nice sweeping statement there. I have never met an evangelical who knows anythign about mormons who has said that what you claim. However, Mormons do have a different God and so if they are not worshipping the God of the Bible they may well be worshipping Satan. Again, thats OPINION not "LIE."
Shazoolo Says:
Jul 24, 2008 - Worshipping Joseph Smith. Again, not something any evangelical who has studied mormonism tends to say. BUT to some observers it must seem LIKE LDS worship Smith. Don't you sing "PRAISE to THE MAN who communed with Jehovah."? All the focus on Smith is close to idol worship. Now then, this is OPINION again omiolo. Some don't understand all there is to know about Mormonism in the same way that you may not know all there is about Buddhism. Not a reason to slap "LIAR" on everything like you do is it?
Tavlo Says:
Jul 24, 2008 - This guy MUST be young. That's the only reason I forgive him. Believe me, I see him a lot and he seems like a nice guy most of the time, but when it comes to reasoning and conversation, he gets very childlike. It's kind of cute. :-)
Tavlo Says:
Jul 24, 2008 - He's got to be young. Everytime I read one of his comments he becomes a year younger in my imagination. Don't worry too much about him. P.S. "He likes to use quotation marks a lot."<--- Here buddy, I'll save you the typing.
omiolo Says:
Jul 24, 2008 - "All the focus on Smith is close to idol worship" this is DISTORTION! and a LIE!! I make myself CLEAR and CONCISE!!
MistyAnn0414 Says:
Jul 24, 2008 - Great Video!! "Your Heavenly Father has promised forgiveness upon total repentance and meeting all the requirements, but that forgiveness is not granted merely for the asking. There must be works—many works—and an all-out, total surrender, with a great humility and 'a broken heart and a contrite spirit.' It depends upon you whether or not you are forgiven, and when.-
MistyAnn0414 Says:
Jul 24, 2008 - cont- It could he weeks, it could he years, it could be centuries before that happy day when you have the positive assurance that the Lord has forgiven you. That depends on your humility your sincerity, your works, your attitudes" (Spencer W. Kimball,Miracle of Forgiveness, pp. 324-325).
gordianvictoria Says:
Jul 25, 2008 - "this is DISTORTION! and a LIE!!" "I make myself CLEAR and CONCISE!!" Like I said in an earlier message. I Guess omiolo proved my point for me!!
weston27a2 Says:
Aug 3, 2008 - Still waiting for you to go after islam in the same manner you do mormons.
weston27a2 Says:
Aug 6, 2008 - Bill McKeever is a liar, check out shawn mccraney dt blogspot dt cm to find out why.
Shazoolo Says:
Jul 24, 2008 - No, you are just plain rude omiolo, and a poor advertisement for your religion.